Archive - September, 2010

HP’s A12500 – Data Center Powerhouse

If you read my post on the Tech Field Day visit to HP you know I was disappointed with the technical content and ended up being a bit too harsh on HP for that. Although I did not get what I wanted I did like the direction they are going in. The good news is HP after that provided us with some addition PDF that have more of the info we were looking for. So I decided to look into the switch myself and I have to say if your looking for a new large data center core switch you need to at least look at these switches.

HP – 3Com – H3C ?

I think most people are not that familiar with how high end HP’s switching line is. Many people thought HP bought 3Com for low end switch but the opposite is true. H3C was a wholly owned subsidiary of 3Com but was founded as a Huawei and 3Com joint venture. H3C had a very high end line of switches that HP is now calling the HP A-series outside of China. It was formally called the H3C S12500. They have a number of offerings but the main ones we saw is the A12500. It comes in two flavors the A12518 which is an 18 slot chassis and A12508 is the 8 slot version.

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This is the A12518 and as you can see it is a full rack. However unlike the Nexus 7018 it does not need a special rack for airflow. It also has some fairly advanced power and fan control for optimal power consumption to lower the total cost of ownership. A prime example of this is the power per 10Gb port. The A12518 its 54w and the Nexus 7018 is 112w. So it’s half the power per port as the Nexus. BTU’s are half of what the Nexus is which is major savings on cooling costs. Over the course of a year that is a real savings in your data center.

Switching Capacity

As you would expect from a modern data center switch this guy is fully redundant for key parts. The mid-plane is a CLOS architecture and today provides 360Gb per slot (and that is standard marketing math, counts both in and out.) It will support up to 720Gb with future fabrics. It has a total of 6.6Tb per second today and the architecture can double to 13.3Tb down the road. It can have 128 non-blocking 10Gb ports and 512 if your ok with 4:1 oversubscription. The buffers are pretty good too at 256Mb per non-blocking port vs ingress: 92 Mb / egress: 80 Mb on the Nexus. It also is ready for 40Gb/100Gb but I don’t have the specs on that.

Another key feature of this line is the Intelligent Resilient Framework. This sounds very familiar to Junipers virtual chassis. I have read up it some more but can not speak to it with the proper knowledge so this section is going to limited. These technologies (VSS, IRF, stacking, virtual chassis, etc) provide a great benefit in eliminating spanning tree and doubling the links bandwidth. However if you do some searching you will run into some horror stories on failures with these technologies. I would be very cautious with this if I was deploying it. I have deployed a number stackwise, VSS and VBS rings in our data centers because I have not had many issues and the increased bandwidth with the elimination of spanning tree is well worth it for me. For you, proceed with caution.

What Next?

HP has come a long with in the data center switch market with the acquisition of 3Com and has a good vision for what data centers should look like. After really looking into this line of I switches I feel if your looking at large data center projects you need to at least talk to HP about these. After all if your going to consider Cisco for your servers with UCS I think it is fair to look at HP for your networking.

Tech Field Day – Solarwinds Orion

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Orion NPM is what most people think of when someone says they use Solarwinds. It is their flagship product and the most mature offering they have. It is a network monitoring tool that keeps historical usage of all devices configured and will alert on status changes on those devices. It has evolved into a fully functional network management system with multiple modules to fit individual customers needs. I personally have used this product for the last 3 years and looked it a few times in the years prior to that. I have really enjoyed the way the product has evolved. The NetFlow and IP SLA modules have been great additions and will help just about anyone get a better understanding of their network.

The Solarwinds crew that spoke to use was Josh Stephens, Brandon Shopp and Joel Dolisy. What I really liked about them is they really seemed to get what the people who use their tools want and need. They also where did not hide short comings in the product and what was being done about that. Joel specifically spoke about database scaling issues. This went very technical and did get over my head as I am not a DBA. However it gave me confidence about where the product is going.

Thwack is Solarwinds community site and it is very active. This is another feature of Solarwinds I have benefited form. It is community driven and if you have a question most likely it has already been answered there. They also offer a number of templates for custom reports and pollers. It is worth your time to visit if you need anything for your Orion install.

Solarwinds also provides a number of free tools that are actually very useful. They will help you get a good idea of what the full suite of tools offers.

In summary I really like the Solarwinds products I have used. It has had it’s issues in the past but for me each release is improving. I think Orion has moved from a NMS that smaller companies would choose to one that will fit any enterprise. If you are looking for a NMS I high recommend you look at what they have. They offer evaluations across the product like and very good online demo’s at solariwnds.com. I hope to have a follow up blog post giving some more details on how I use these products ensure my networks are up and running optimally.

Tech Field Day – HP

The first vendor we visited was HP. First up was Jay Mellman and this was the marketing presentation which was well done. Jay talked about what the 3Com acquisition did for HP by brining in the high end switching from the H3C portfolio. Going into this I did not realize just how high end the HP switch line had grown. The 12518 is a big data center switch that directly completes with the Nexus 7018.

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Jay (pictured) also talked about where HP sees the data center in 2010. Their vision is a standards based DC focusing on service delivery. I agree with this vision as companies are going to be more concerned with are the key business services up and running not what it is running on. HP feels, as do I, that infrastructure will be converging into a single fabric. They also think they are in the unique position as they can be a one stop shop for all of your needs because they offer servers, storage and the network.

This led us to the next presentation and where things went downhill. We went to very nice looking showpiece room and this is where we thought we would start to get technical. We did not. In fact it was very non-technical. The presenter could not even answer basic questions like “What is the bandwidth per slot?” when talking about the 12518. His answer was “The good news is they sent the good looking guy” to explain why he is non-techncal. Yeah, that went over well. This was pretty much a waste of time. I had really hoped to get a good understanding of HP’s Intelligent Resilient Framework but we did so now it just sounds like a good idea but I still don’t know technical details.

After that we talked about the management software called Intelligent Management Center which sounded like a really nice management offering but price is going to eliminate most customers from buying it.

We wrapped up the visit with a discussion on Tipping Point which is a nice security product but again the presenter was more marketing then technical so not much to say here. When did the demo it was good but not a lot of depth. Looks to be a good product but security is not my strong point.

Summary

HP did not get the audience. Jay’s opening presentation is about all the marketing we wanted. We are a highly technical group but they sent no one technical. I like where HP is going on their products but have no idea if they are accomplishing their goals. Hopefully in the company weeks I can find the technical info I was looking for. However HP is clearly moving in the right direction and if your going to look at Cisco for servers you have to look at HP for networking in your data center.

Tech Field Day – Day 0

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Well I am off to a network focused Tech Field Day today. The event officially kicks off tomorrow with visits from HP, SolarWinds, Cradlepoint and Force10. Then on Friday we will meet with Juniper, Arista and Xsigo. I am pretty excited to meet with all of these vendors. Where I work now we are customers of HP, SolarWinds and Juniper. We also did an extended demo with Xsigo so I am fairly familiar with them. I think I am most interested in what HP and Juniper have to say and hoping for data center specific content. I also want to hear what the other delegates think of Xsigo which I am fan of.

What I hope to get out of this event is a better understanding of each vendors products. In this format we get access to people at these companies we would not normally get on a normal sales call. Plus this is not a sales call! It’s a highly technical discussion between the delegates and the vendors. I also am excited because there are 12 delegates each coming from a different company with a different background. That should make help all of us understand the benefits and drawbacks of each product in a variety of situations.

What those who are not attending can get out of it is pretty much the exact same thing! Basically all of us are active on the internet with blogs, Twitter, in forums, etc. Most of us will be posting our thoughts, good or bad, on each vendors pretension. I know from previous Tech Field Day’s even though I did not attend I got new insight to products I was already familiar with and was introduced to completely new products and I hope you will get the same from me and the other delegates. You can see the full list over at Gestalt IT.

Now I have a flight to catch, talk to you tomorrow!

Full Discloser: The vendors are paying for my (and the other delegates) flights, hotel and meals while at this event. However they are not requiring anything in return. Meaning I am free to say or not say anything I want about them.

Links of the Week – 2010.9.11

Dell’s alternative to container based DC’s
Pretty cool alternative to standard shipping containers.

Packet Pushers podcast
Very high quality podcast from some senior level networking guys. Well worth your time to listen to each week. Also has shorter “runt” episodes at random times.

802.1Qbg and 802.1Qbh
May want to read up on these. Very possibly could be what your deploying in your data center sooner then you think. Will be interesting to see how these and what Cisco is doing will play out over the next year with the virtualization of the data center. VEPA, TRILL and FabricPath; get to know these terms.

Follow Friday – 2010.9.10

Here are some people to follow on Twitter:

@etherealmind
Very experienced UK based engineer with strong opinions and usually right.

@fryguy_pa
Helpful engineer with good Nexus docs on his site. Plus a car guy.

@ioshints
Long time CCIE, anything MPLS and routing this is your guy. Funny too.

@icemarkom
Very knowledgeable IPX instructor. Also seems to work for Iceland tourism board ;)

@jenniferlucille
CCIE Wireless to be. Great insight on wifi and many other areas.

Links of the Week – 2010.9.4

A number of VMware related links since VMworld was this week. Don’t expect that every week.

Multiple Hop FCoE 101
Ivan Pepelnjak gives the 101 on FCoE. If you do any data center work you need to know this. As time goes on converged I/O will be very important to you.

Nikonrumors.com site taken down for too much usage.
The owner of the site had tickets open with MediaTemple on performance issues and was apparently paying based on CPU usage but without warning they pulled the plug on his site as it get too busy for them. Do your disaster plans rely on the “cloud” being up? Because some times it goes down, better plan for that in your enterprise.

VCDX Journey
While I have no desire to ever do this reading Chris’s post about his VCDX journey is worth reading to keep up with what the guys who attach to our networks are doing for expert level certifications.

vShield – Security, Load Balancing, etc from VMware
Need to read up on this more personally. Lots of traditional tasks of the network team keep moving to the server team.

CIsco VSG for 1000v
More VMware security, this time all Cisco. With this you can define firewall policy at a per VM level which of course follows the VM when it vMotions. I need to read up on this a lot more.

vSphere for the iPad
Can you imagine your server guys sitting on beach with a 3G iPad kicking off a vMotion? It might happen soon.